Comments on: The Bike Retailer Disconnect and You http://flyingpigeon-la.com/2009/10/the-bike-retailer-disconnect-and-you/ beautiful bikes for everyday life Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:14:03 +0000 hourly 1 By: roger (fixed Gear) D http://flyingpigeon-la.com/2009/10/the-bike-retailer-disconnect-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-921 roger (fixed Gear) D Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:24:35 +0000 http://flyingpigeon-la.com/?p=372#comment-921 hey josef.. i was wondering some prices for the Pashleys bikes that you can get.. ps i saw your posting around downtown la.. two Thumbs up! hey josef.. i was wondering some prices for the Pashleys bikes that you can get.. ps i saw your posting around downtown la.. two Thumbs up!

]]> By: The Pedicab Experience | TheCityFix.com http://flyingpigeon-la.com/2009/10/the-bike-retailer-disconnect-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-919 The Pedicab Experience | TheCityFix.com Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:44:59 +0000 http://flyingpigeon-la.com/?p=372#comment-919 [...] of folks who make use of the bicycle an inspired mode of transport.  See my friend Josef’s blog post (he’s a bicycle shop owner) on how this plays out at bike retailers.  Until this disconnect [...] [...] of folks who make use of the bicycle an inspired mode of transport.  See my friend Josef’s blog post (he’s a bicycle shop owner) on how this plays out at bike retailers.  Until this disconnect [...]

]]> By: Ben http://flyingpigeon-la.com/2009/10/the-bike-retailer-disconnect-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-913 Ben Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:48:16 +0000 http://flyingpigeon-la.com/?p=372#comment-913 Hey Josef, I just read above that you carry Pashleys now. Do you have them in your shop yet? Maybe a 20.5" Roadster Sovereign? I've been drooling over that bike for a while now. Still debating everyday whether I should get one or not. I have been riding more and more lately. And if I can somehow justify getting a fourth bike I might just do it. BTW I love the workcycle bikes too. Haven't seen one in person yet. Hey Josef,
I just read above that you carry Pashleys now. Do you have them in your shop yet? Maybe a 20.5″ Roadster Sovereign? I’ve been drooling over that bike for a while now. Still debating everyday whether I should get one or not. I have been riding more and more lately. And if I can somehow justify getting a fourth bike I might just do it. BTW I love the workcycle bikes too. Haven’t seen one in person yet.

]]> By: Ben http://flyingpigeon-la.com/2009/10/the-bike-retailer-disconnect-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-912 Ben Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:38:14 +0000 http://flyingpigeon-la.com/?p=372#comment-912 Hey Erik, I've been looking for a smaller cottered crankset myself. I did find a 40 tooth crankset but the arms are 5.5 inches. http://www.huskybicycles.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=hbs&Category_Code=crk About 1 inch shorter than the ones on the Pigeon, which practically negates what I gained by going from 46 teeth to 40. Plus it feels kinda funny pedaling 5.5 in cranks. They also have a 32 tooth crankset but the arms are 4.5 inches! Do you know the length of the crank arms on the 32 tooth crankset you found? Anyway, if the crank arms are at least 6.5 inches let me know. I'd like to get a set. Hey Erik,
I’ve been looking for a smaller cottered crankset myself. I did find a 40 tooth crankset but the arms are 5.5 inches.

http://www.huskybicycles.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=hbs&Category_Code=crk

About 1 inch shorter than the ones on the Pigeon, which practically negates what I gained by going from 46 teeth to 40. Plus it feels kinda funny pedaling 5.5 in cranks. They also have a 32 tooth crankset but the arms are 4.5 inches!

Do you know the length of the crank arms on the 32 tooth crankset you found?
Anyway, if the crank arms are at least 6.5 inches let me know. I’d like to get a set.

]]> By: Erik http://flyingpigeon-la.com/2009/10/the-bike-retailer-disconnect-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-911 Erik Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:36:55 +0000 http://flyingpigeon-la.com/?p=372#comment-911 And best of all, they are like 12 or 13 dollars, for the right side crank. not sure how much the left side is but could not be more than 12-13 dollars And best of all, they are like 12 or 13 dollars, for the right side crank. not sure how much the left side is but could not be more than 12-13 dollars

]]> By: Erik http://flyingpigeon-la.com/2009/10/the-bike-retailer-disconnect-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-910 Erik Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:34:34 +0000 http://flyingpigeon-la.com/?p=372#comment-910 I have not ordered yet but here is the link http://www.surreybikes.com/pricelist.htm it is part number 116-32c. And they have 42t and 36t sizes too. I have not ordered yet but here is the link

http://www.surreybikes.com/pricelist.htm

it is part number 116-32c. And they have 42t and 36t sizes too.

]]> By: josef http://flyingpigeon-la.com/2009/10/the-bike-retailer-disconnect-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-909 josef Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:28:43 +0000 http://flyingpigeon-la.com/?p=372#comment-909 I've gotten away with pretty small crank arms on the chain cases I have on the Flying Pigeons I sell. I think the smallest was 20-something teeth. 32 teeth has been no trouble for me at all. You shouldn't have to remove the whole chain case - but you will need to slide the rear wheel forward to slacken the chain in order to remove the drive side crank, and possibly remove a few links of chain when you step down to the smaller chain ring size. Where are you getting smaller 32-tooth cottered cranks?! I’ve gotten away with pretty small crank arms on the chain cases I have on the Flying Pigeons I sell. I think the smallest was 20-something teeth. 32 teeth has been no trouble for me at all.

You shouldn’t have to remove the whole chain case – but you will need to slide the rear wheel forward to slacken the chain in order to remove the drive side crank, and possibly remove a few links of chain when you step down to the smaller chain ring size.

Where are you getting smaller 32-tooth cottered cranks?!

]]> By: Erik http://flyingpigeon-la.com/2009/10/the-bike-retailer-disconnect-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-908 Erik Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:00:51 +0000 http://flyingpigeon-la.com/?p=372#comment-908 Hey Josef thanks for responding so quickly. I found a store that sells 32t cotter crank arms so I would not have to use a modern 3 piece crank, thus no dremeling. The question is will a 32t ring work with the full chain case or will I have to take off the case. Will the smaller ring rub, on the inside of the chain case and necessitate using a larger chain ring? I have heard that the smallest chain ring that is useable with a full chain case is 42t, what is your experience? Hey Josef thanks for responding so quickly. I found a store that sells 32t cotter crank arms so I would not have to use a modern 3 piece crank, thus no dremeling. The question is will a 32t ring work with the full chain case or will I have to take off the case. Will the smaller ring rub, on the inside of the chain case and necessitate using a larger chain ring?

I have heard that the smallest chain ring that is useable with a full chain case is 42t, what is your experience?

]]> By: josef http://flyingpigeon-la.com/2009/10/the-bike-retailer-disconnect-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-907 josef Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:21:09 +0000 http://flyingpigeon-la.com/?p=372#comment-907 Doohickie, thanks man. I actually laughed out loud at Erik's comment. Sorry I haven't gotten back to you earlier. If you've got a smaller cottered crank, then you're in luck as it is likely to work just fine in your chain case - probably better than the 44 or 46 tooth chain ring the thing came with! Regarding rear freewheel sizes, go crazy, but I think you'll max out at 20 or 22 teeth. That is just me picturing the available clearance in the rear of the chaincase. A 32/18 is a pretty solid combo on a Flying Pigeon (it's what I run on the Deluxe Pigeons I turn out). The bottom bracket on the bikes I sell are english threaded and 68 mm. With a quick thread chasing, they accept bottom modern bottom bracket and crank arms. The only issue with new (modern alloy) cranks is that the arm attachment site is larger than the cottered crank attachment site. You'll have to do some dremel/grinding work to make a clean cut out on the chain case in the appropriate spots to make these work - but it's worth the time as the improved ride is quite remarkable. Doohickie, thanks man.

I actually laughed out loud at Erik’s comment. Sorry I haven’t gotten back to you earlier. If you’ve got a smaller cottered crank, then you’re in luck as it is likely to work just fine in your chain case – probably better than the 44 or 46 tooth chain ring the thing came with!

Regarding rear freewheel sizes, go crazy, but I think you’ll max out at 20 or 22 teeth. That is just me picturing the available clearance in the rear of the chaincase.

A 32/18 is a pretty solid combo on a Flying Pigeon (it’s what I run on the Deluxe Pigeons I turn out). The bottom bracket on the bikes I sell are english threaded and 68 mm. With a quick thread chasing, they accept bottom modern bottom bracket and crank arms.

The only issue with new (modern alloy) cranks is that the arm attachment site is larger than the cottered crank attachment site. You’ll have to do some dremel/grinding work to make a clean cut out on the chain case in the appropriate spots to make these work – but it’s worth the time as the improved ride is quite remarkable.

]]> By: Erik http://flyingpigeon-la.com/2009/10/the-bike-retailer-disconnect-and-you/comment-page-1/#comment-906 Erik Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:55:41 +0000 http://flyingpigeon-la.com/?p=372#comment-906 +1 what doohickie said! Now, what is the smallest chain ring and the largest cog I can put on a pigeon? I live in a hilly town! +1 what doohickie said!

Now, what is the smallest chain ring and the largest cog I can put on a pigeon? I live in a hilly town!

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